Buying a house next door to a municipal airport
could anyone who knows anything about airports give me some advice on this? here's the property:
https://www.redfin.com/TX/Mineral-Wells/2600-Farm-to-Market-Road-1195-76067/home/74957984
I've been looking around and it looks like the airport doesn't have night flights. how loud do y'all think this particular property would be during the day?
summersrhythm_z6a
Most of them are small planes, 6 big planes and 4 Helicopters/day. I think you should just pack a lunch and stay there for 5-6 hours, wait and see. The realtor may let you stay on the property for a while.
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maifleur01
4 years agoBe aware that the direction of the winds will effect landings and takeoffs. The approaches may also change over the years. The runways may also need to be lengthened to accommodate larger planes. I live near the KCMO downtown airport and over the years flights have gone directly over me but now the flight approach is about a quarter to half mile west. If you have many agricultural flights that load their chemicals at that airport some of the ones that are not as professional may leak when they take off. My large maple looks like it finally died because of stuff dropped on it during an airshow.
All that said I do like the funky look of the house.
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4 years agoIs it a small plane airport,? Small plane airport won't be loud and busy. That's a pretty property!
zippity1
4 years agothe "busy intersection" part would concern me as much or more than the airport i'm not much a fan of traffic noise we live a couple of miles from a train track and trains can be heard very well if the wind is from that direction and they pass buy several times a day and night on the other hand, the "highway" in the other direction about a mile away bothers me much more when the wind is coming from that direction
maifleur01
4 years agoGeneral information on the airfield. It has runway lights but you would have to decide if they would be visible from the house. 88 flights a day.
aprilneverends
4 years agoPretty house
I like the advice to spend there several hours if possible at all
I have friends that live with a(small, local, only small planes) airport right in their backyard)) No acres-I'm talking feet here. They kinda like it too. Noise doesn't bother them too much, and they love looking at planes. Lol.
So I'd say it depends. Also busy intersection and all..how far is it? how busy is it? best thing to do is to go there and have an impression yourself, some impression, you know?
We did buy a house that backs up to a street that can get busy in certain hours (no highway, just a local street, not too big but many use it, schools are there, etc)-and while something like a view would be much preferrable to me of course, I'd take a street every day over having neighbors behind that fence. Other people wouldn't.
Kat V
Original Author4 years agoI'm not sure re: scheduled flights vs general aviation, honestly. One of the websites I've looked at says they have a lot of crop dusting, flight instruction, chartered flights, etc. I'm assuming that stuff is scheduled?
re: the busy street - we'd eventually fence everything in and this is a busy street in a small town, so I guess it depends on your definition of busy? There's a little building right on the corner of the intersection that we've talked about maybe turning into a snow cone stand or small convenience store or something, and a huge pavilion we've talked about using for some sort of public events. so with what we'd maybe like to do with it, the busy-ness would be an asset. we've got to figure out all the codes and city rules, etc, but the airport being bearable is the first hurdle
thank y'all for your words of wisdom!mxk3 z5b_MI
4 years agoTwo words: Heck no.
Even if you can tolerate the noise and the busy goings-on, selling is probably going to be bear. I would not purchase a house I didn't think I could sell relatively easily if circumstances were such that I had to move (job transfer, financial constraints, etc).pudgeder
4 years agoTake into consideration the growth of this little airport.
Potential traffic increase? How much?
It is a pretty property!imstillchloecat
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoAs much as I love flying, as much as I love jet noise, and as much as I love the smell of jet fuel in the morning, I wouldn't buy this house. Way too close to the end of the long runway. One good overrun and you've got a plane in your living room.
maifleur01
4 years agoKathy none of the stuff you listed is scheduled like commercial aviation. Crop dusting depend on the weather, what is growing at the time, what insects need to be killed. Flight instruction will, using the local airports, take place in the late afternoon and on Saturday and Sunday. Charter flights could happen any time and although you mentioned there are no night flights the airport apparently has lighted runways so they could happen 24/7.
Imstillchoecat is correct and with a loaded crop duster it would not be the plane in the house but the chemicals that a overloaded plane would carry. Do not expect most crop dusters to carry enough insurance to cover any damages. A very few might but many are just the local guy who makes a few extra bucks and only carries the bare minimum.
rockybird
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoI grew up in Anchorage, AK and small planes are very common. They are also loud. I’d hear them while inside a typical residential dwelling all the time (not on a runway). I agree with going to the house to see how loud the noise really is, but 88 planes a day sounds like a lot!
One more thing - I see the helicopter on the sign also. I live near a mountain recreation area. People are often rescued by helicopter and the noise is very loud, and I am not as close as a lot of the homes are.
ncrealestateguy
4 years agoI'm a private pilot and love all aspects of general and commercial flight. But, living at the end of a runway would not happen for me. Airports only grow in size and the planes that use them too.
Living near an airport is such a turn off to most buyers that our state Property Disclosure asks the seller if the home is affected by any commercial noise such as an airport.
patriceny
4 years agoI live about a mile away from a small municipal airport - maybe 2-3 arrivals and/or departures an hour, and the airport shuts down from 11 pm-ish to 6 am.
Depending upon wind direction, the flight path goes almost over my house.
There is no way I would live any closer than I do, and you seriously couldn't pay me to live right at the end of the runway. We've had 2 crashs/aborted take-offs that I can recall in just a few years, and both of those planes ended up about where your potential house would be.
Kat V
Original Author4 years agoAlright. y’all have convinced me. I really appreciate your feedback and input. We will keep looking!lazy_gardens
4 years ago13 acres and a house for $155,000? With good access to a small airport AND the highway?
Cute house, nice setup for use as a live-in outdoor venue for weddings and parties.
I'd buy it.
Aircraft based on the field: 59Single engine airplanes: 47Multi engine airplanes: 6Jet airplanes: 1Helicopters: 4Ultralights: 1
Aircraft operations: avg 88/day *74% local general aviation25% transient general aviation<1% military* for 12-month period ending 28 April 2017kudzu9
4 years agoKat V-
I think you got a lot of good advice and made a good decision. I took a look at the listing and what struck me was the property history: it's been for sale for 3 years, has been listed and delisted several times, and had a couple of contingent offers that people backed out on. That tells me something, too....
homechef59
4 years agoThe airport has an ILS on one runway. That means instrument flying. This place won't shut down. Jet operations are very loud and this airport can accommodate a jet. Helicopter's are just as bad. Looking at the aerial picture, you've got a lot of hangars. This is an often used airport. Plus, pilots will be using the field for touch and go's all weekend, every weekend.
We have a local municipal airport that over flies the historic downtown. It wasn't so bad, but then somebody got the bright idea to start a flying school. What was once a sleepy little flying club has turned into the second busiest airport in Georgia with Atlanta Hartsfield being first. Add the one local guy with a jet and the life flight helicopters that are stationed out of it that operate all hours of the day and night, you've got a monster. We moved.
Great house if you have a hearing disability.
cpartist
4 years agoIt's been listed and delisted since 2015. There is a reason it's not selling and that reason is the number one reason. A poor location. If the location were good, it would be grabbed up no matter what condition the house was in. Especially at that low price.
This location would only be good for commercial use. Not residential. Especially with helicopters and crop dusters. I'd pass.
Caroline Gerardo Home Mortgage
4 years agoGo at different times of day and night and see if the flights taking off or landing bother you. Flight restrictions can change over time, the airport can expand or contract. You will have no control over: dust, lights, noise, junk that falls out or leaks from planes. But 13 acres is a nice large parcel. What was there before? Do soils tests and history on past ownership. You don't want to live on land that was a gas station or plating industry as chemicals poured down the drain or dumped years ago don't go away. Look into a USDA loan.
ncrealestateguy
4 years agoIf resale is one of your criteria, and for most buyers it is, the best way to determine how long it may take to sell, is to look at it's history, as has been said here.
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
4 years agoIf it is a growing area, it may be a good site in the future for a commercial building.
Wouldn't want to live there.
Debbie Downer
4 years agoYou should just go there at various times of the day - applies to any house even if you think its a quiet neighborhood. One real nuisance that Ive become aware lately is ventilation in new construction can be hideously loud. All you need is one of those pointed at your house and what you thought was the perfect location suddenly isn't. YOu still may decide its tolerable but at least you know.
How close is "next door"? If the planes are so low you can see and wave to the people in the plane I would hate that.
gregbradley
4 years agoI love airplanes and would even seriously consider owning a house next to a private airport but THAT HOUSE? NO WAY. SE landing planes will be at 50' or less near your house. They wouldn't even allow a house that close to the runways in California. In Texas they are probably looking for some nutcase to buy it. Pay money for it? Seriously? Nobody that doesn't own an airplane and lives their entire life around private airplanes should consider that house. And even then it needs to be MUCH cheaper.










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